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Is he too small for a penis clamp?
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anonymous1768885 Jun 25, 2024
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Is grandpa on hospice , or is he having any help come in to give your relatives a break ?

Even an anti strip suit may not be easy for an 85 and 60 year old to manage with a bedridden person .

Grandpa is calling the shots here . This has to change . The caregivers call the shots now so they don’t end up exhausted and in the hospital themselves . Grandpa needs to wear nappies again .
And if he pees a little at a time it will pull the moisture away . Just like a babies diaper . It may not be necessary to change it every hour or after just one small pee .

Perhaps grandpa is not able to understand that this is killing his wife and daughter , dementia ???

Either way , his stubbornness is an issue .
When an elderly is uncooperative with family and thinks they are the boss , then they need to be taken care of by “ non family “. I suggest that you strongly encourage placement for grandpa before one or both of these women collapse .
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anonymous1768885 Jun 25, 2024
"When an elderly is uncooperative with family and thinks they are the boss , then they need to be taken care of by “ non family “. I suggest that you strongly encourage placement for grandpa before one or both of these women collapse ." Exactly this Way.
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You stop accommodating such activity and purchase anti-strip jumpsuits for him so he can no longer access his disposable briefs.

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His wife should hold the top of the container against the groin to ensure no spillage comes out. And if he’s capable of learning, train him on how to do that himself.
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Arthur120 Jun 24, 2024
Thanks for the reply. He does not follow instructions well and has been repeatedly told to hold it differently - he doesn't seem to learn. They have tried holding the container closer (so it almost makes a seal), but it still seems to leak. To be blunt, he has very small genitalia and it is difficult to control the direction/flow of urine unless he is standing up but that isn't possible now.
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Maybe you aren’t familiar with this type .

A Texas catheter goes on like a condom . This could work for them all .
It is literally a condom , the end of it is connected to tubing and a urine collection bag . No pain , nothing internal . Very easy to use .

He can pee normally when he needs too, whether he is in bed or chair .
Essentially it is the same as your bottle method but without the mess .

It can be left on for periods of time as well , to avoid on and off and accidents .
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Arthur120 Jun 24, 2024
Thanks for the suggestion - I spoke to an incontinence nurse about this but to be blunt - his genitalia isn't suitable for a device like this.
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